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02-06-2009, 11:51 AM
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UTAN: End of Life announcement
UTAN supports Unreal Tournament 2004. A game which is now, as given by the title, rather dated. The number of users of UTAN has, as expected, dwindled over time and it is no longer viable. So that's that. If you have the addon installed, it will no longer work beyond the 16th, so it is recommended that you uninstall it as soon as possible so that you server's performance is not effected. 
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02-06-2009, 11:16 PM
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It's amazing how an "integrated in to the game" piece of software can be just terminated when master servers and the game has more players than some other games.
XG has been and always be a joke for Anti-cheat and I said it when it was sold out (despite work being done on the system from the community) and taken without people (who did work) knowing or permission. Now you get bull**** like this. This goes to show and prove just how poor XG really is and care about $$ than the community or the game they paid to support! Just a pity that it's retards in control tbh. ---------- There has been discussion of a replacement system so I guess we move those ideas onwards since UTAN was stolen from the community, sold without knowledge consent of all the coders and again just dumped without thought we can make it better and be like it was before the sellout  Let's just hope something can be done in time. Maybe limited can be a gentlemen and provide us with the bans and ban details rather than be stupid about it. The game made him and he owes us that at the very least.
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02-06-2009, 11:29 PM
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well, if you are to turn it off. give Epic or a trusted member of the community the access to the source and database so we can at least keep it running.
if youre not even gonna do that. then well... **** YOU
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02-06-2009, 11:35 PM
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Do that?
Since it was stolen from the community they have not allowed that because it is "THEIRS" not the community or Epic's or anyone elses. I just hope that Limited has some ounce of decency in him left that has him give us, at the very least, the global bans. He knows himself who could continue this or has the skills and knowledge to make UTAN continue or make a new version. He could get off his fat arse and sort it out and be a little pro-active to the community. Then again he ****ed us over once by selling it why should he care now he's doing other stuff right? Maybe he will surprise me and make me eat my words but I would guess he will prove me right like I said when he first sold UTAN. Sellout who did it for self gain and not for the community. This latest steps shows how right I was all them many moons ago. He still has the chance to prove me wrong and I hope he does but expect he wont.
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03-06-2009, 12:54 AM
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Hey guys I just made an account here was looking for info how to use when found this!
Anyways I guess too bad... What I would like would be a database to host on my dedicated server so when I ban someone on one of our servers they are banned on them all... I been looking for something like this to work with both the ut2004 servers and the UT3 servers we host! I do not care about the bans already added I just want something to ban them accross all of our unreal servers at the same time! If anything I would like to see someone just make one for game server hosts to use with a database just for their servers like www.sourcebans.net Here is a working version I use for our Source servers as an example! http://208.86.251.30/sourcebans/index.php There is an API made for sourcebans and the guys hang out on GameSurge IRC #SourceBans I already had asked them but they said they would need help from Unreal coders to add Unreal games to Sourcebans... I been scouting for someone to look into this but many are busy atm that can code something into the sourcebans api... Anyways let me know if there is anything possible like a global bans I can use for my servers alone! Thank You! And thanks for hosting UTAN for as long as you have been hosting it! Last edited by CoZmicShReddeR : 03-06-2009 at 12:57 AM.
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03-06-2009, 08:08 AM
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Just ignore Pulse, he's only commenting to get peoples attention and just deserves to be ignore. He's a convicted cheat and has many bans across his original and subsequent warez keys on UTAN and that's the main reason he is here. Epic Radar user and cheat. Nothing needs to be added there and hence I have not said anything on his childish antics. Pretend he aint there Dark_Dude he's a nothing, nobody cheat mate!
------ CoZmicShReddeR there are ISPs such as Jolt, Multiplay and Titan that use their own database as well as UTAN. I believe some other lesser servers have a form of database utility in use. I think the most advanced tool is in use by Jolt but there is nothing openly available for you to download that will work anything like you want without you being required to do coding and a lot of work with testing. That is why UTAN was so good because it could do ALL ut2004 servers in your setup. Ok it didnt go to a UT3 stage so it will not do all servers but at least one ban would stop all on your own servers and if submitted to ACT (CB Anti-Cheat Team) with the correct evidence there was a chance we could take the ban further. UTAN was a fantastic public utility and still remains the best way to do things just a shame $$$ orientated people/company are going to ruin it for the vast majority of fair gamers.
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03-06-2009, 09:04 AM
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If you think it's about the $$$ and want to help out why don't you try offering some financial support?? Duhhhhh
Put your money where your mouth (or finger in this case) is. Either that or stop moaning and shut up since you're not going to do anything about it.
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03-06-2009, 09:27 AM
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xray is a **** tool and this just brings it to the top... kkthxbb i was againt this from the beginning but who am i...
the bad thing is i wouldn't even have any resources to help let UTAN stay alive... so RIP UTAN xray won't be opend by me anytime soon... so...
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03-06-2009, 09:39 AM
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cheaters has won... *sad face*
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03-06-2009, 09:59 AM
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Guess that happens if something is run by people who are just in for the money and don't even play the game themselves.
If you're not able to handle something, don't get your hands on it in the first place. In 2 weeks we might as well start playing on demo servers, as it will just be the same expierence as on servers we have now. Simply anyone will be able to join, banned or not and do whatever they like. Crash servers, hack, steal cd keys. wp xray... XG Senior... as given by your title you sound to be "rather dated". Now how do we get rid of you ?
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03-06-2009, 10:07 AM
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03-06-2009, 10:23 AM
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Yes I'm Joolz stop being an ungrateful bitch and try saying thanks for the service they gave you in the past, have you ever even thought of doing that?
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03-06-2009, 11:48 AM
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This is bad news
 Don't see anywhere in the announcement a request for financial aid or anything (if indeed the main reason for quitting UTAN is financial, which isn't too clear either imo). I'd be willing to donate to keep UTAN alive.
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03-06-2009, 12:51 PM
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How much does it cost to run UTAN and can it be given to the community (for free ofc) since it obviously has no value for whoever owns it now?
I'd be willing to donate too. Last edited by buster_ut2k4 : 03-06-2009 at 12:57 PM.
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03-06-2009, 03:14 PM
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I would like to know the reasons why you think this game is out-dated. people still play CS 1.6 and thats ****ing old.
can you at least give Limi access to the database so he can get it running again instead of you guys totally killing it off.
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03-06-2009, 05:01 PM
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This thread has been very emotive so far. Expected. The reality is that if you want to support it with money - you could ask to? All I really see here is a lot of unhelpful assumption. If anyone was REALLY interested, i'd of had a PM by now going 'I'll give you money to keep it going' - I haven't.
The database was offered back to Limi and discussions in that area will continue. The initial answer I got back was "No" - but these things change on a day to day basis and I know Limi is moved by the responses so far. As it stands right now, however, it's all turned off on the 16th. Last edited by Joolz : 03-06-2009 at 05:06 PM.
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03-06-2009, 05:02 PM
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I'll host it if it shuts these ungrateful mofos up what the hell is it?
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Eyyyyyyyyyyyyy Macarena, AYYYYY Last edited by muppetalert__ : 03-06-2009 at 05:05 PM.
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03-06-2009, 05:08 PM
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As Joolz has said I am in discussion with him at the moment over the project, as he says I did initially say "no", as I did'nt believe that many used the system anymore. However since reading the replies here I have started coding a basic version which can replicate behaviour. From that, someone else can either take over, or continue the project from that state.
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03-06-2009, 05:38 PM
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Hi all
I am really sad to see that UTAN as it is, is going to end. It is true that all things come to an end, but the remaining people that do play UT2004, have come to depend on UTAN. That there are not many bans added into the UTAN system is not telling UTAN admins that the system is no longer used, maybe it is most effective now? If UTAN will end, it is like taking a piss on all decend UT2004 players, and i like to believe that also UTAN management still supports honest players. Even if the numbers are not that high anymore. There are still popular servers where people are waiting in spec, to enter the game. If UTAN goes, those servers will be crowded over with lots off peeps that are in UTAN database for whatever reason. I hope youll reconsider. Greets Maxi Corenation Tam Server Admin
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03-06-2009, 05:58 PM
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03-06-2009, 05:59 PM
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I think the point he was trying to make is that you never offered and just jumped on the "abuse" band wagon
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03-06-2009, 07:07 PM
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I'm gonna sell UTAN's server, buy me a couple of hoes and will be on my way to Hawaii... kthxbye With love and affection, -Joolz P.S. I'm rich, BIATCH! /joke @Joolz: Reality check: some people still play Starcraft. So simply because a game has aged, doesn't mean it's dead. As fey said, you didn't even give us the reasons as to why UTAN would be shut down in your first post. You expected the emotion but also expected us to bring our purse along without any reasons? Care to give these reasons to us now? And please, no "we don't have the money anymore", even if that's true, there's technical reasons behind it. These are the ones I personally would like to hear about. Not even 15 days? Somewhat short don't you think? And I ain't gonna believe you didn't know (or at least thought) about shutting UTAN down some time ago. Before posting this, you could at least have contacted the people who try to keep things organized down there in the UTAN forum... you know... the moderators... like uhhhh... hey! me for example! It's not like my PM box is full and you don't have my email address, now is it? Tsk tsk. I'm gonna be brutal but I'm gonna be honest with you : work on your diplomacy skill. Because last I heard, you supposedly care about the users. Well, XAC's only I guess... @Limi: basic version? Like something limited to a GISP only, that would only keep track of bans and players on the GISP's servers? We might as well just exchange track logs and bans on 8" floppy disks and send them on a fukkin planetary postal trip. Basically, we'll be back to stone age, and I'm not even thinking about about global bans disappearing when I say that. No offense meant to you dude, I know you've worked hard for UT2004, I'm just angry. I dunno how much influence you got left around UT2004's community, but if you're still considering not taking UTAN back, then at least, please consider contacting the main GISP's left and/or unrealadmin. Hopefully someone will takeover from here. And if you can, try giving whoever's the source of the original serveractor if you're to leave completely.
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03-06-2009, 07:07 PM
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Hi there,
I would willingly donate monthly if needed, to help keep the UTAN system up and running, it has proved to be a very useful tool in keeping a lot of potential "nasty users" at bay. If it cant be saved I would be interested in an alternative as a last resort.  In the last 9 months or so I have seen over 5000 unique players join my server, for me UTAN is important. Lets hope this gets sorted somehow, oh and perhaps I'm being blind but I can't find Joolz's PM button, will an e-mail do? Some_Mate, {V][M}VCTF Server 
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03-06-2009, 07:29 PM
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03-06-2009, 07:43 PM
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@ ARsEnAl51
If I had of said "We can't afford..." that would be a lie. Why would I say it? If I said "It's not used enough" - again a lie... it would be ripped apart by you guys. The fact is, it's a decision that's been made further up. It's not about "selling servers" either. The owners of X-ray Gaming are a business and decisions are made on that basis. Let's see what Limi cooks up. Any more flame posts will be involve gags - there's been some great supportive posts and some nasty ones. I'm just going to ignore any more nasty post's content.
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03-06-2009, 08:18 PM
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That being said feel free to come chat in the UTAN irc channel.
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03-06-2009, 08:26 PM
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03-06-2009, 08:32 PM
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I can't tell for XAC itself. But my guess would be that this site probably generates little to no income... you know... adblockers and all. (Edit: ah well, Joolz beat me to it)
Anyway, let's just simplify this thing and say that UTAN isn't bringing any income while costing your bosses some pennys. I know I'm kinda the guy on the other side of the fence... but... what are those old screenshots for? You know, those taken late in 2007. You could save quite some disk space by trashing all non-marked screenshots older than, say... 6 months. Saving disk space means not buying disks all the time, and in case there's problem, you don't have to restore 'everything'. And if people complain, tell them they should be checking the screenshots right after the match(es), not 6 months after. I know my idea might seem stupid... but heh, try to give it a whirl in your mind. One last thing... will we have to move UTAN forums again, or is it just the server hosting the database/bans ?
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